Talk:Kevlar Vaughn/@comment-70.97.96.239-20161206225116

Y'know. Let's be honest here.The only reason Kevlar is claiming that State's created by those other than the Auel's were failures, is because they weren't created by the gang-bang group of officers that normally run State. To be completely honest, to have new uniform types, shields, and a new system to run under is a whole new concept that most State officers still do not comprehend.

In the instance of those specific States, it was not that they were failures, but were simply different. In the instance of Macbeth, Rohan, and Aga's different respective States, each had their own types of leadership and style of guild.

For example, Rohan and Aga focus largely on preserving the original ideals of State (original uniforms, off-mapping, infantry units, state ranks, etc.) However, due to poor timing in creation, it caused conflict and difficulty in starting. A guild is only as good as it's members.

Macbeth on the other would focus mainly on the GFX and combat side of the guild. This would mean putting those who fight best as the top officers in his guild. Organization solely being focused on fighting off opponents "physically", can cause major problems as well. This can be seen in the downfall due to a large backlash from the "old state officers".

Both of these States had their respective goals. Both had 3-4 full infantries. Both had good officers. However, it was due to an outside source that the guilds eventuyally fell.